Prot paladins lose the daze with avenger’s shield, Ret has no promising gap closer or slow, HOLY is the one that has the “good” gap closer

Warriors gain what looks like a guaranteed immobilization with improved hamstring (arms) and it has been said they might gain a CC effect for 1 person on their intimidating shout. Probably still have the retarded bubble breaker move too, dispels dont seem to have as much penalty as they have claimed. In fact for healers or hybrids that can dispel, they will actually save mana from not having to spam the button on someone with dispel resistance.

Frost mages get more retarded shit that will make them more of a pain in the ass for melee in pvp. Assuming they can also still spellsteal and dispel resistance is gone on talents…

I hate you kalgan and the poor (or nonexistent?) pvp development team. Kalgan will probably be rockin his season 9 or 10 weapon on his mage and/or warrior with his changes for cataclysm. Because there are more changes to come for the classes he plays. It seems like he failed his hunter though

Almost seems like a step back to classic wow but with some different scenarios in pve – only good spec for PVP is holy and ret will get lol kited again. But, you can succeed as any spec in pve; as long as the group invites you and isnt FULL ON PALADINS already.

Sorry for the rage, couldnt let it go; do not want another failed paladin beta expansion repeat where feedback is ignored. The “it’s only beta” excuse does not apply for paladins, it’s been how many major revamps for us now?

Any thoughts?

Ret:
http://www.wowtal.com/#k=u1zLaB8T.9r8.paladin

there is also some great interaction between selfless healer and last word (t2 holy) for a potential ret pvp spec with potent offhealing.